29 May
2010

In defense of Glenn Beck’s beliefs about the Dead Sea Scrolls

Here’s what Glenn Beck said and believes about the Dead Sea Scrolls:

All right. So here’s what happened. When Constantine decided he was going to uh… cobble together an army, um, he did the uh… Council of uh… Nicaea, right, Pat? …
Council of Nicaea. Um… and what they did is brought all of the religious figures, uhh, together, all the Christians and then they said, “Ok, let’s uh, put together the Apostles’ Creed, let’s, you know, you guys do it.” So they brought all their religious scripture together, and that’s when the Bible was first bound and everything else. And then they said, “Anybody that disagrees with this is a heretic and… off with their head!” Well, that’s what the Dead Sea Scrolls are. The Dead Sea Scrolls are those scriptures that people had at the time that they said, “They are destroying all of this truth.” Whether it’s truth or not is, is up to the individual, but that… at that time those people thought that this was something that needed to be preserved and so they rolled up the scrolls and they put ‘em in clay pots and they, they put ‘em in the back of caves where no one could find them. They were hidden scripture because everything was being destroyed that disagreed with the Council of Nicaea and Constantine. That’s what those things are.

What I’m going to do is defend Glenn Beck here on what he got right. I will repost the words and strike what is incorrect. The remainder (what is either correct or at least possibly correct) will be in blue.

All right. So here’s what happened. When Constantine decided he was going to uh… cobble together an army, um, he did the uh… Council of uh… Nicaea, right, Pat?
Council of Nicaea. Um… and what they did is brought all of the religious figures, uhh, together, all the Christians and then they said, “Ok, let’s uh, put together the Apostles’ Creed, let’s, you know, you guys do it.” So they brought all their religious scripture together, and that’s when the Bible was first bound and everything else. And then they said, “Anybody that disagrees with this is a heretic and… off with their head!” Well, that’s what the Dead Sea Scrolls are. The Dead Sea Scrolls are those scriptures that people had at the time that they said, “They are destroying all of this truth.” Whether it’s truth or not is, is up to the individual, but that… at that time those people thought that this was something that needed to be preserved and so they rolled up the scrolls and they put ‘em in clay pots and they, they put ‘em in the back of caves where no one could find them. They were hidden scripture because everything was being destroyed that disagreed with the Council of Nicaea and Constantine. That’s what those things are.

There you go. Here’s where he was spot on:

  • “All right.” Can’t argue with that.
  • “uh … um … uh” I won’t take exception to those. We all say them.
  • “right, Pat?” Pat exists, and Beck asked him a question.
  • “Council of Nicea” A real historical event.
  • “Whether it’s truth or not is, is up to the individual,” Can’t really disagree with that when you’re speaking of truth in a relative sense. Some people believe the Dead Sea Scrolls contain truth, others do not.
  • “rolled up the scrolls and … put ‘em in clay pots and … put ‘em in the back of caves where no one could find them.” While wrong about who “they” were, it’s quite possible the real folks behind the DSS did what Beck said. Could be someone else moved them around later. Could be any number of possibilities.
  • “They were hidden scripture” No problem with that.

As for what was incorrect, I am waiting for those who are Glenn Beck supporters and defenders to speak up. I’d like to see their perspective on this. We all know what the history shows. Is this going to be similar to the Ergun Caner situation? I pray not.

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  • Jason

    Holy cow that was so funny

  • http://twitter.com/craigadams49 Craig L. Adams

    Hilarious.

  • Craigd2599

    Will you be posting this on your TV sho…oh wait…you don't actually have one. Well maybe you can talk about it on your radi…oh…well I guess this is a good venue. At least 3 people saw it. That's a start

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  • http://twitter.com/Jason_T_Cormier Jason T Cormier

    Not sure how insulting the blogger proves any points. That is right you did not have any actual point, like engaging the topic.

  • http://thechurchofjesuschrist.us/ Polycarp

    hahhahaha awesome!

  • Chris

    Glenn was confusing the DSS with the Nag Hammadi library.

  • drjewest

    nice!
    you have a sense of humor. you cant really be an anabaptist.

  • http://schleitheim.com martyrologist

    I'll rectify that: “That's not funny. I am an anabaptist. Take it back.” :)

  • http://schleitheim.com martyrologist

    He seemed to toss in many different myths, legends, and historical instances (right or wrong in and of themselves) and mix it into a bad tasting salad. How can anyone come up with Constantine telling the “religious figures” to put together the Apostle's Creed at Nicea?

  • http://simuleustisetpecator.wordpress.com/ Craig Falvo

    This made me laugh out loud.

  • http://diglot.wordpress.com/ Diglot

    Wow! That was very funny! I even showed it to my wife

  • drjewest

    i see you're one of those violent muenster-ian rebaptizers!

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  • http://www.confessingevangelical.com John Halton

    So let me see if I've got this right: Constantine was a socialist who introduced government-run religion. However, free-thinking patriots used self-help solutions to resist tyranny and protect liberty. Uh-huh.

  • http://Committedtotruth.wordpress.com Jerry Starling

    This is what happens when folks make pronouncements in areas outside their expertise. Sad, isn't it. Actually, Beck's main point he was trying to illustrate with the Dead Sea Scrolls is not a bad one: teach our children and teach them well! Too bad he illustrated it with something that he obviously knows not at all! This is about as close to the truth as his belief in Joseph Smith as a prophet of God who discovered Scripture on golden plates and translated it by the aid of a special stone through which he read the most perfect translation ever made and dictated it to a scribe.

  • http://ozziepete.wordpress.com/ Aussie Pete

    I understand that most assume they were hidden in the caves to protect them from the invading Romans in about 68AD. So he's half right in saying they were hidden to prevent them being destroyed, it seems he's wrong about who was going to destroy them and why they were going to destroy them. In fact, no one was specifically going to destroy the scrolls, but the people were certainly under threat.

  • robert r. cargill

    well done. nice approach.

  • http://schleitheim.com martyrologist

    Thanks for the comments and nice words Robert, Aussie, John, Jerry, Dr., diglot, craig, chris, polycarp (excellent choice of nick), Jason.